How Did You First Find Out

[richlion]

I think this would be a good area on the forum to post “How did you first find out about the flat earth?”

I'll just go into just a bit of how I came to learn about the flat earth. Since this was life-changing information for me, I recorded (in my mind) the day and the time. It was April 30 at about 5.30pm that I was reading an article on whale.to of the astronauts that were killed on the Challenger rocket, I think back in 1986, that they were not killed; that they are alive today and that you can find some of their pictures on the internet! From there, I was led to a link that went to aplanetruth.info (Eric Dubay's site). I then saw all these tabs at the top of the page that had, Flat Earth this, Flat Earth that, etc. I thought to myself, “What in the heck is this non-sense?” Then curiosity got the best of me and I started reading one article, then another. Then I listed to Eric's (probably most popular) 1 hour interview. And the rest is history.

Talking about conspiracies, I have to mention about this website I was on – www.whale.to (No, this is not my website and I don't know the guy who has it.) This site is basically all about the medical fraud that has been going on more than 100 years. There is a ton of info there that will keep you busy for a long time. Anyhow, it was this site that I learned, through a link, about the flat earth.

Now, what is your story? Just add a Reply to this Thread :-)

[aplanetruth.info]

Nothing is true. Everything is possible

I have similar "awakenings" over the past years, starting with 9/11 and Loose Change video. From there I read everything I could on everything conspiratorial as well as alternative history. This lead me to Atlantean Conspiracy and Mr. Dubay's excellent work. Last November I read his book and flying to Hawaii it hit me that the Earth should be spinning underneath me and I should get from SF to Hawaii much sooner, if all the heliocentric theory was what they said. This lead to the Apollo Hoax and to read all i could from the works of Samuel Rowbotham, Gerrad Hickson, et. al.

IMHO this is the beginning of the end of the Greatest Lie in the past 500 years.

Whaleto. is v. good site.

[chessnut1]

Mine came around March this year. I had seen Mark Sargants 'Flat Earth Clues' for a couple of days as recommended by youtube. I had heard about the idea for a couple of years and I thought I could debunk the whole idea, so I clicked on the link, WOW!!!
I have been looking into the whole 'freeman' stuff and can prove that there is no law in the world by the fact that words used in everyday life do not mean the same thing in the 'legal' system and by applying the same principle to the 'globe' (very interesting word, look up the original def!) I find that the truth is hidden in plain sight.

[aj]

Similarly to the Chessnut1's post I seen Mark Sargent's videos around early March 2015 while randomly digging for information on a broad range of topics: Extraterrestrials, secret technology, the shadow government etc. A few intelligent, outspoken and passionate people were making videos about Black Goo and Artificial Intelligence and this resonated with me somewhat...the connecting to nature part at least anyway. Then I read Eric Dubay's '200 Proofs Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball'. After reading that I was left pretty much no room for doubt that we've been lied to about the place we live. People I've known for years and whom I know to be extremely intelligent are convinced that the NASA model of the Universe is correct. No one I meet on a daily basis takes me seriously when I talk about flat earth and it's often a 'who cares' or 'what difference does it make' attitude. Nevertheless, it's liberating seeing the world as it appears and not the way I'm told to believe it is by the Science Priests.

[aplanetruth.info]

Though it seems like you are alone and isolated, we all have been "gifted" with some of the deepest hidden truths now just beginning to be exposed in the past 500 years or more. What a gift to be able to begin the Herculean task of taking this new, exciting, empire crushing news to our friends,our colleagues, our loved ones to speak truth to power. WE need to be really creative in how we speak and activate. Right now I am focusing on youth and teenagers. I'm writing a children's book explaining how history has held many different viewpoints and beliefs over time about the Earth, why we are here and Cosmology. My son is in 4th grade and we are doing a science experiment simply showing how the moon light is warmer in the shade, then in the sun. I've also printed up "business" cards with my website and you tube channels and leaving them in stores, handing them out, etc.

Remember, At first they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then you WIN! and winning in this vein, means the complete dismantling of our government structure, colleges and universities will have to seriously retool as well, as classes in astronomy, physics, geography, geology, etc. will all have to through out much of what is taught today. NASA will close, freeing billions of tax payer dollars. Geoengineering will cease as well.

Minds will open again to past ancient Cosmology where other realms and existence are known once again, as the Age of Pisces, the fish in water going both ways morphs into the Age of Aquarius, the age of the Mind and Higher Consciousness. Also, Aquarius is an Air sign, which means we are not necessarily going to feel "rooted" and "grounded" for quite some time, so get over having to have all the answers, feeling tomorrow will be just like today, etc.

We are the new Bioneers, the Earth awakeners, just at the same time our environment is being destroyed.

Could there be any more importance than are work today to awaken, alert and inform the obedient and the sheeple to this now disclosed truth about our true Nature of the World?

Truth is freedom, but it is also daunting to realize that there are 7 billion that need awakening now, yet look at Google Trends to see in just one year alone, the number of Flat Earth searches has increased 600% year-to-year.

We are the first responders, like Malcolm Gladwell describes in his excellent book, "Tipping Pt". first are the visionary's and independent thinkers who people ignore, then then next 2-5% who look at them and say "hey their onto something", then the 2nd wave of "trend watchers" that take us to 10% or so. When just 35-50% is reached, the whole herd follows, in general, and we win, that is the "Tipping Pt." where everyone will say, "yea, i knew it all along".

The awakening will be very gradual and the tipping point may not be achieved in our lifetimes, but the cat is out of the bag, the horse has left the barn, and the free thinkers, independent researchers and general open minded thinkers are joining us everyday.

Who else wants to share their story?

[perogie1]

I have been truth seeking since 911 and it wasn't until a friend seriously asked me to check out Erics stuff.
For all the truth seeking I had done this thing initially made me thing this is rediculous and a waist of time.
Then my friend asks me if I have seen curvature. Sure on a plane but the fuselage is curved. Sure in pictures and movies. But never with my own unimpaired vision.
It was because of my friendship that I checked it out anyway.
It wasn't 5 minutes into Erics documentry that the light started to turn on and now it is blinding.
I am a scientist and I started to review the so called facts. The more I look the more I see the pseudo science and mochery we are fed.
As a truth the divide between my understanding and the common person was very large. Now it is a chasem.

[consciousness]

I had been into "truthing" for a long time, my first one (like 99% of people) was 9/11 which I first found out about and researched in 2007 when I had just graduated high school. I understood the whole thing was a sham but for some reason I didn't dig any further and after the shock of it wore off in a few weeks I went right back into the matrix so to speak (believing the government and education systems were legit) and I didn't look at any more conspiracies until 2011 when I had what I call "the beginning of my Revelation" about this world.

I first had randomly seen a video on the Illuminati suggested on the sidebar of YouTube, I clicked on it and was blown away and that's when my Paradigm began to change. I became obsessed with learning about every conspiracy known to man, and I'd consider everything no matter how absurd, and once I knew enough to judge whether it's legit or not I'd either throw it out or keep it accordingly. During this period I learned about the "Elite" international bankers, the Fed reserve, libertarianism, anarchy, fake moon landings, chemtrails, vaccines, gmo's, propaganda, TV mind control, mk ultra, and some of the other major things I'm forgetting. In 2012 it occurred to me totally organically, without the urging of anybody, that the earth could be flat. I thought a lot about this, and I remembered the Bible saying that God stopped the sun in the sky to allow Joshua to finish his battle with full daylight, and I remember that hitting me like a freight train. I come from a family who takes the Bible very literally and I immediately texted my dad asking what he thought about that verse. I said "how can that verse be accurate if we're really on a spinning globe flying around the sun?" And he said something to the effect of "well the writer in that case is just using the language of appearances, the sun didn't really stop in the sky since it is the earth that moves, the earth stopped, but to people back then they would've thought the sun stopped". I called him out saying "no that's a cop-out and you know it is, because we believe everything else in the Bible to be literal, including the 6-day creation which you say is a literal 6 days, so you can't pick and choose what parts you want to take literal otherwise I can say the 6 day creation wasn't really 6 days". He didn't know how to respond to this and we ended the conversation. I took to the internet to see if I could find flat earth stuff but unfortunately at the time really the only info out there was from TFES and, as Eric Dubay says, their info was not compelling at all so I thought the idea must be ridiculous and after a day or two I just stopped thinking about it entirely.

Fast forward to April 2015, and I was at the time really into the YouTube channel Learn Of The Jesuit Order and I was watching all his videos on how the Jesuits control everything and NASA is total fraud. It was then that I came across Eric's video Flat Earth Masonic Matrix Manipulators. The rest is history. I guess some people supposedly take weeks or months to accept and grasp the flat earth but I wasn't one of them. My mind was already predisposed towards the position, I just needed to hear someone intelligent speak on it in a sensible way, and that's all it took, by the end of that interview I was 100% flat earther. Since then I've been having a sort of "Renaissance" in my truthing efforts, I'm at it harder than ever before and I absolutely love it, I mean this stuff dwarfs all other hobbies I have, I'm literally researching every single day for 2-4 hrs a day, 365 a year. Like Perogi said, I'm now at the point where I feel like I should have a PhD in truthing lol, my level of understanding was already better than most people, but now there's simply a chasm. I now see how such a small understanding of the world most people have, and I feel compelled to try and teach everyone as well as be taught more myself too. My friends have noticed this shift hugely, and I am now regarded (by every person within my circle) as the person to go to to ask about almost anything lol, they can't fathom how I know so much about so many topics and seem to have such clear understanding and can make sense of what seems to be a confusing world. I love this feeling more than anything else. To be able to tell my friends and family everything I know (as long as they'll listen lol) and to slowly see more and more eyes opening. I've converted 6 people to flat earth thus far, including my father who fought me on it for 3 months but ended up seeing the truth and he's now obsessed with flat earth too HAHA!!

And that's all it takes. That's how this is going to reach critical mass very soon. If every flat earther simply converts 5-10 people and then tells those people to do the same, then I can't see this ball-earth Paradigm continuing for another 10 yrs honestly. As long as we keep studying and theorizing, as well as being prepared to answer ALL questions that may come our way, it really isn't that difficult to make individual people see the truth. In groups it's harder because they have herd mentality, but if you get them alone and have a good 2 hr in depth discussion, I've found personally that there is almost a 70% success rate. I've tried with 9 people and 6 of them are now flat earthers. Actually my mom believed it too when I told her, but she doesn't seem too sincere so I'm not counting her, but if she is sincere then I'm 7 out of 9 so far lol. If everybody does this (and I know you guys do, and probably are better at it than me) then the globe is DONE FOR!!!

Peace

[aplanetruth.info]

Isn't it amazing how so many independent "seekers" are finding these occulted truths within the same time periods?
I too spend copious amounts of time researching each day as well as reading several books a month. The rabbit whole goes deeper and deeper but I feel we are getting close to the core of the onion.

Good on ya, for raising your consciousness and having the guts to attempt to awaken others. I think this will be the year FE goes mainstream...along with the mass criticism and ad hominen attacks...but that goes with the territory of those that challenge the programmed paradigm.

Good on your Dad for listening. I originally thought the "bible thumpers" were to be the first to embrace FE truth, but have found with my own family, they like to pick and choose what verses and passages they "like" and believe and which to discard when it doesn't fit their personal belief systems.

Interesting.

Thanx for sharing...and caring.

[aj]

Just got done flying in an airplane from visiting family and spreading the word about flat earth at every opportunity to everybody I spoke with. It seems as though people are slowly coming out of their stupor. I wasn't ridiculed(to my face at least anyway) as much as I thought I would be.
In any case I'm posting this here because I realized while attempting with some success to impart the Flat Earth facts and helping people to see the spinning ball lie, I realized that the process, the journey towards Flat Earth is a complex one.And for me at least anyway, filled initially with horror, serious doubt and a paradigm shift within oneself that makes other 'conspiracies' almost pale into insignificance...but of course we know that much of the research that leads a lot of us to Flat Earth in the first place entails querying the validity of things like the UFO phenomenon and the existence of ETs, astral realms and spiritual practices, shadow government and their super advanced hidden technologies that would seem like magic to us, quantum physics and artificial intelligence, the nature of consciousness itself and the question of why we exist at all in this duality matrix. I'm starting to see the possibility that the controllers are using the power of the belief in a Star Trek universe by a few billion people to help create its existence. After all, if everything is a manifestation of thought then there already is a Captain Kirk flying around in a Starship Enterprise somewhere. But the powerful elite with their seemingly immense power haven't quite managed to pull off that magic trick yet. Because guess what: I seen no curve whatsoever in any direction, felt not the slightest altitude correction for flying over a curve and didn't feel the airplane change direction to allow for the Earth spinning below us. I seen from several thousand feet how the cloud cover never curves into the distance. Just like the Flat Earth the law of perspective was never more obvious. The Flat Earth realm I live on/in is the reality I experience every day with my senses.
In closing I think it would be helpful if some of us here published the various different interests(as I have above) in a little more detail, showing how they came to the truth of Flat Earth. It may help guide others better in finding their way to this same truth or at the very least snap them out of the horrific grip that the mind kontrollers wish to maintain.

[Michael L]

The falacy of NASA and the open blindness of so-called scientists who have wilfully closed their eyes to God and the free gift of reason that comes from him, to be embraced in all people not covered up with lies and vain imagination; (these people and their ridiculous claims, from which there's no foundation) has led me to consider what believers of the flat earth had to say.

[Salman Sulaibeekh]

Mark sergant's videos & method got me convinced in about one afternoon, of course after sitting home in denial and shocked for hours. i would say that was about a year ago.

[True North]

I am very new to the flat earth concepts, about three weeks now, and find it just amazing! I actually got into it 'accidently' while watching some videos on YouTube on a certain topic and one of the videos on the side was about the flat earth. I thought it was ridiculous at first, that people still believed such a thing, but decided to just take a peek to see what was said about it. I am glad I did and do not believe it was a coincidence. I do not remember who posted the first video I watched. I think it was the ones about Flat Earth Clues, not sure, but anyway, it got me curious enough to want to do some more research into it to see what it was all about. I think what really took my attention was the curvature issue, and if we truly lived on a spherical globe, why is no curvature being detected. I also did a Bible study as well as some reading within the book of Enoch and Jasher. It was interesting how when YHWH created the earth and the firmament in Genesis, so far I have found nothing in the Scriptures that support a spherical earth!

Then the next thing was NASA, and their false claims and hoaxes, it makes me sick and causes me to wonder what else I have believed for most of my life that is in fact wrong.
I still have a lot of questions, but each day is a new discovery, and I am very excited at what these next weeks will hold. I thank you for creating this site and look forward to meeting new friends on here and learning more as each day passes. :-)

[Danny1080]

God opened my eyes.